"Ped Workaround" Version Log 2:

Police Station, mission Row, 9-10 police, FPS in 40s

Player using Minigun, moving, sometimes, his anim will T-pose

3 players near, Hospital Rockford, 49 NPCs total, 30/21 from me

1-3 from others, FPS in mid 40

Same area, 19 NPCs total now, no cars passing by,

37 npcs, FPS in mid 30 now

Hospital Strawberry, NPCs went into 39, FPS is hi 30s

One player was in a Truck, it got flipped and exploded but
it just duped 2 car scraps, 1 normal version and the Player
was moving another normal truck

C4ing a Player, he spawned a bunch of his trucks, Vehicle went
up to 50 to 65, FPS dropped to low 30s

Dis-re-con gained 10 fps, resetted vehicle to 35

Pillbox Hospital, FPS in 40, 3 players and few cops

18 peds, 33 vehicles, no NPC car passing by

Invisible player, visible car still seen

Del Perro, near Gun store,39p/25v, total
31/21 for me, 1/0 for idle player

When it reaches 40-50 ped/vehicle, is when it starts to drop into
30-40 or even lower

(ex: Pillbox Hospital, 55 npcs, 30-35 fps
LSC in LS, 47 npcs, me:24/21, 6-5 for each ohter 5 players
35 fps
55 npcs: 20s
)

Stolen Pink car random event again, i teleported and got it but then the
car just flew into the mountain, so the thief got killed

Skull icon NPC still spawns randomly standing still or might be clipped
to underground.

This test is about the doors/windows break/repair loop

https://github.com/oldnapalm/RAGECOOP-V/releases/download/nightly-build/RageCoop.Client.test2.zip

@oldnapalm
Glad to have you back.
Important note for the logs above:
- FPS drops significantly when Ped/Veh reaches 40-50s
- Vehicle can go to 50-60s. A way to delete earliest spawned Vehicles (or Even peds) (like First in First out type) once the limit is reached, might help FPS
- Dupes (Ped/Veh)still happen, just a minor reminder.

"Veh Repair Loop" Version Log 1:

**FPS ped sync:
- Denise house, idling Frank player, FPS dropped to 30s
36(30-37)/21(me), 15/7(him). This might be the mod not dividing the Ped count possibly.
- Different session, Denise house, 4 players (me included),
31/21, 7/5 (for all 3 others). FPS in low 40 despite being about 2km away from them.
I teleported to their location (near Mike house), my synced ped dropped to 4.
- Other session, same area:
31/21, 6/6, 10/6. Again despite both players in Mike house area, FPS in mid 40
- Same session, Little Seoul, near a Franklin Agency:
31/21, 8/6, 10/6. FPS: low to mid 40
- Inside Mike house, 1 idler: 15/21, 9/10, FPS: hi 30 to 50
- It seems like from Denise area, to Arena War stadium, to Airport, with 2 players, is particularly
laggy, my Ped synced stayed in 30s while the other got 6-7. When mine dipped down to 12, while other
2 stayed at 7, FPS rose to 40. Then theirs (2 players) ped synced, rose to 10, FPS is in 30-35
- Hospital, Strawberry, with 5 players in 1km radius, FPS can dip to hi 30 when driving/riding.
Ped synced can go to 40, with mine about 30. When synced Ped is in 20 total (mine: 12), FPS rose to
60
- Outside Army Base, with Tanks inside the Base, FPS can dip to 41,
Ped Sync: 31, 7 (3 others)

**Repair loop:
- It might have stopped as i ran through another Player car (no one's in it), the door broke but
didnt auto-repair
- Running into a Player car, it looked trashed but then he got out of the car, tried to explode it
the car now auto-repaired and looked like new condition now.
- No repeated broken window seen so far

Hi, it is possible to create a private server? I want to play with my friend but non on an open server, thx

@Celks you can simply do not announce the server (AnnounceSelf=false, won't appear on server list) or use the management resource to restrict access to registered players.
https://github.com/RAGECOOP/GTAV-RESOURCES/tree/main/Resources/RageCoop/RageCoop.Resources.Management

Hello everyone,

I am French and I use Google translation to write to you.

I would like to know if there is an easy way to play on LAN at home. I have 3 laptops and I cannot create my server

Thank you so much

@Micklom just enter the LAN IP of the laptop running the server and port in the mod menu (for example 192.168.0.100:4499), the IP is displayed in the server window (under ethernet or wi-fi interface). See https://github.com/RAGECOOP/RAGECOOP-V/wiki/Set-up-a-server (for LAN you don't need port forwarding).

@oldnapalm An idea for Player sync:
- I wonder if it's possible to only sync other Player in a radius (to see more FPS boost). Say about 200-400m so that if they get out of that radius, their player's model, peds/veh won't be synced at all. (Ex: even if server has 12 players but you are around 2 players, only those 2 will be synced, the other 10 will be synced on map but not others like model/ped/veh,...)

@hehexd1222 these are server side settings (NpcStreamingDistance which defaults to 500 and PlayerStreamingDistance which defaults to -1 or unlimited). In various tests I added client side limit of 200 and it didn't appear to be a significative FPS boost. The good news is that EntenKoeniq (the original author of the project) is back so we should see real improvement soon.

@oldnapalm Nice to hear,
Also i want to ask: how come in some areas, despite of (20,30) veh, ped lim, the Ped/Veh still gets exceeded in some areas but not all (31,32,...even 50,60 if the player continues to spawn)? (I saw that they aren't removed also)

@hehexd1222 maybe the player is using a trainer to spawn vehicles, the player's vehicle is always synced. Or maybe there are mission entities in the area, which are also always synced despite the peds limit.

@oldnapalm
Wouldn't it be better to also treat Mission entities as normal entities? Since there could be corpses, burnt scrap vehicles,etc... that wouldn't despawn.
Or maybe a "Priority" list would be an idea: Like Mission entity gets synced first, removed later while Non-Mission gets synced later, removed first.

@hehexd1222 actually only local mission entities will be synced even with the world limit reached, if you are seeing other players exceeding the peds limit, it's for an unknown reason.

We can't treat mission entities as normal (RandomAmbient) because deleting them could ruin the mission. This test treats them like RandomScenario, they won't be synced if limit is reached but won't be deleted locally.

https://github.com/oldnapalm/RAGECOOP-V/releases/download/nightly-build/RageCoop.Client.test3.zip

@oldnapalm
Before "test3" version:
Misc log:
- Saw a player driving broken car, dis-re-con didnt repair it and he
was still inside that broken car (burnt, no wheels)

Cases where i saw limit exceeding:
- 1st: Crowded area like Upper Vinewood (near Pac Standard, Cinema,...).
I dont remember how the Ped sync worked. But it might not be summing up
to or even reach over the limit

EX: Lim of 30 ped, it went up to 31, but if a or 2 Player is next to
me, their ped lim might be 6-7, so it added up to high 30 or even 40 peds

So maybe if the limit is 30, then example with 3 players, you can
divide it by 3, so each get 10 (i saw this happen few times) or
have lim be 30 but subtract 6 and 6 (example by 2 other players),
it won't exceed 30?

- 2nd: Trainers, they can spawn a bunch of peds/vehs, causing over-limit
Something that re-fresh (similar to dis-re-con) every X secs/mins to reset the
limit (removing all the excess vehicles/peds).

Questions:

1. When you say local mission will be synced. Does it mean that:
I'm on a mission, my own local ped will be synced to other players despite
limit (so Others will see my local peds) or "I will always see my local mission peds"?

2. Deleting them could ruin mission. Do you mean for the Mission Host or the Other
Players joining them along? Because i always thought local Peds (Mission or not)
will always be visible regardless of the Mod. And some Mission Peds like D and
Lamar when i played with other Host, sometimes didn't appear and they did mission just
fine.

It's normal that the total is above the limit because the local player can have up to the limit and others can have "limit divided by number of players", for example, if the limit is 30, you can have 30 and if there are 3 players on the server, each of the other 2 players can have 10 each. In some tests I tried to limit the local to "limit divided by number of players" but then the ghost city effect was total.

Mission entities are always synced (even if you already have the limit number of ambient) but it doesn't mean the other players will see them all, it will depend on their own limit. In test3 mission entities are not synced if the limit is already reached, but they will not be deleted (new ambient peds/vehicles are deleted when the limit is reached).

Having all local traffic enabled but not synced is doable, but it's not how the mod was designed to work.

This test does not remove local traffic, so you can set a vert low limit to avoid receiving traffic from other players. You will probably see players ramming through local vehicles very frequently, because you will have a lot of traffic which does not exist on their world.

https://github.com/oldnapalm/RAGECOOP-V/releases/download/nightly-build/RageCoop.Client.test4.zip

- Although it would be great to have ped sync but as of right now, it might not be perfect so: Maybe if you have about
80-20/90-10% of Local Ped non-synced + Synced Peds? (Like 27 local
(not synced) + 3 synced or 25 local - 5 synced)

As Synced Peds can be buggy at times:

-At least walking peds on streets are less buggy.
-Driving NPCs could be invisible. But acceptable bugginess for Ambience.
-Specific placed peds (like Strip Club, convenient store)+ Mission Peds
might be duped/not shown. Caused FPS drops.

Would be interesting to see if a mix of mostly non-synced Local and few synced Ped/Veh
will improve FPS or not